portupgrade -aPR after cvsup?

vharishankar · 12-11-2006, 10:06 PM

Is the above the right command to do a complete system upgrade using the Ports collection using Packages instead of ports whenever available?

I saw the ports manual in the handbook and it seems to be the command to use, but I'd like to make sure,

The manual says use

portupgrade -a

But I'd like to add some additional options as well (and yes, I did the cvsup thing and the pkgdb -F)

vharishankar · 12-11-2006, 10:20 PM

I'm a bit confused. What's the difference between upgrading ports and this method?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO...makeworld.html

vharishankar · 12-11-2006, 11:24 PM

Hm... I saw a thread on BSDForums which explains the difference between the two, but even then I would like somebody to confirm whether I can do both portupgrade and the "make buildworld" etc. etc. method and whether there is a recommended way to keep both packages and the system base updated.

phil.d.g · 12-12-2006, 04:30 AM

Rebuilding world updates the FreeBSD system only. Software installed from ports isn't updated when you rebuild world. In the same way portupgrade doesn't update the system, only software installed from ports. You should update both FreeBSD and software installed from ports to keep your system uptodate.

Remember the BSDs make a much clearer distinction between the OS and application software, whereas Linux muddies the boundary between the two. So you need to use both methods to keep your entire system uptodate

My preferred way, because I'm lazy, is to wait until portaudit tells me a security problem has been found and addressed for a particular port, I then read /usr/ports/UPDATING just in case, then I manually update the port by

Code:

cd /usr/ports/foo/bar && make all deinstall reinstall clean

Similarly when I get an email from the freebsd-security mailing list I follow the instructions described in the "How to Fix" section

vharishankar · 12-12-2006, 04:44 AM

So if I'm tracking either -STABLE or -CURRENT I need to be subscribed to the mailing list?

Thanks for the explanation. I understand the system now.

Just a doubt: I guess I need to use cvsup twice (one for updating the ports files and the other to update the stable file list)

Also: is it better to keep both the system and ports upgraded or just the ports?

phil.d.g · 12-12-2006, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harishankar

But I'd like to add some additional options as well (and yes, I did the cvsup thing and the pkgdb -F)

What exactly do you mean by "additional options"?

vharishankar · 12-12-2006, 04:47 AM

I meant as in portupgrade -aPR instead of just portupgrade -a

phil.d.g · 12-12-2006, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harishankar

So if I'm tracking either -STABLE or -CURRENT I need to be subscribed to the mailing list?

You don't need to be, but its a good idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by harishankar

Just a doubt: I guess I need to use cvsup twice (one for updating the ports files and the other to update the stable file list)

You can combine the two cvsup files, if you really want thusly:

Code:

*default host=cvsup.uk.freebsd.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_1
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress

src-all


*default release=cvs tag=.

ports-all

Or you can use cvsup for freebsd and portsnap for updating the ports tree

phil.d.g · 12-12-2006, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harishankar

I meant as in portupgrade -aPR instead of just portupgrade -a

ah, OK. I thought you meant defining options for different ports for example WITH_OPENSSL="YES" for apache. In which case you can just put them in /etc/make.conf

vharishankar · 12-12-2006, 05:30 AM

Thanks a lot phil, that cleared a few doubts for me.