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By mcd at 2003-09-01 01:55
This is to help create a functioning FAT32 (vfat) partition to be shared between your linux and windows OS's. For simplicity, i'll assume that you're using hda1 for windows, hda2 as an extended partition for linux with hda5,6 and 7 for /, /usr, and swap contained as logical sub-partitions. That's a normal setup. Now you'll want to create a new partition using fdisk. Some people seem to be afraid of this, but i find it very easy to use. First, go to the command line and as root type:

telinit s

this will take you to single user mode, which means disks aren't usually mounted and stuff like that (it's not a good idea to try and format a disk that's already mounted and in use). type:

fdisk hda

this will take you into the menu-driven fdisk program. type:

p

to list your current partitions, and take a moment to familiarize yourself with the setup. an i.d. of 83 is an ext3 linux native partition, i.d. 82 means a linux swap partition.

Now you want to create a new primary partition, with a file system type FAT32 (this can be easily accessed by both OS's) to do this, type:

n <---- create new partition
p <---- primary
3 <---- label it hda3 (3rd primary)

At this point it'll ask for first and last sector, which will default to first available sector and last available sector (take up any free space left), if you want to control the size yourself, say create a 5 gigabyte partition, accept the first default, then type +5000M

Now change the fs type with

t
c <---- this specifies vfat filesystem

and review what you've done with 'p' to make sure everything is the way you want it. If you're satisfied, use 'w' to write the partition table to disk, and exit fdisk. (WARNING: this will write the partition table to disk, make sure you haven't changed any of your old partitions)

At this point you need to format the new parition, which can be done with mkfs, although i had to download dosfsutils because slackware didn't come with mkfs.vfat (FAT32) included. If you are missing this package, try the following link to download the rpm (i'm still looking for a good source package).

http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/ultrapenguin/1.1.9/sparc/RedHat/RPMS/mkdosf...

Either way, in the end the command should look something like this:

mkfs -t vfat /dev/hda3
OR
mkfs.vfat /dev/hda3

Assuming that works, there's just one thing left to do: edit your /etc/fstab to automatically mount the new partition on boot. Use emacs, vi or whatever editor you're familiar with, and add the following line:

/dev/hda3 /mnt/windows defaults,umask=000 0 0

There are actually several different sets of options you could use in place of defaults, but i have this setup and it so far it works extremely well for me. Type:

mount -a or mount /dev/hda3

and presto!, you should be able to read and write to this partion from linux or windows!

Well, there you go. I apologize if that's more detail than you wanted, but it's best to have the info and not need it, than the other way around.

If anything goes wrong, or you have questions, post up.

by DMR on Wed, 2003-10-22 19:52
It should be noted that the "umask" option in /etc/fstab deserves special mention because in Linux, permission control works differently for FAT32 and NTFS filesystems than it does for native Linux filesystems (ext2, ext3, reiser, etc.).

- The UNIX permissions of a directory onto which you mount a Windows filesystem can't be changed while the fileystem is mounted (the chang might appear to work, but it won't persist). If you need to change the UNIX permissions of the mount point, unmount the Windows filesystem before doing so.

- Windows doesn't support UNIX-style permissions, so you can only apply permissions to the entire Win filesystem, not to individual files/folders. The default permission mask applied to FAT32 volume at mount time are rwx for root, but only rx for normal users; this is modified with the "umask" option of the mount command.

- The value of the permission bits used with umask are the opposite of those used with the chmod command. For example, the following pairs are equivalent:

umask=000 and chmod 777
umask=022 and chmod 755

by shepherdboy on Thu, 2003-11-06 01:47
i wanted to instal linus in my computer but faced this problem: i coucldn't successfully create partitions. i am still not so familiar with linux. what stes should i take in linux installment?

by synaptical on Tue, 2003-11-25 11:12
the mkfs and mkfs.vfat commands didn't work for me ("no such file or directory," "command not found," etc.). a search showed that seems to be common with those commands. if you're having similar trouble, mkdosfs is probably what you want. i used mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/hdx and that worked fine. see man mkdosfs or mkdosfs -h for the other command line options.

by KyngNothing on Sun, 2003-12-07 21:41
sorry, nm

by DivisionByZero on Wed, 2004-01-07 20:38
I ddn't want to mess with partitions and stuff, as I want to preserve my windows stuff. It's already buggy as it is . I bought a secondary 80 GB HD and dual booted my computer. In windows disk management, I created a 20 GB FAT 32 Partition on the new drive, thinking I could use it for file sharing. Windows detects and uses the partition, but Linux doesn't . How can I 'mount' or whatever the drive to linux. Also, if I cant do that, How can I access a usb drive from linux? Oh, and BTW, I can delete the 20 GB partition if neccessary, but I'm not very familiar with the linux command line and most of the things I've tried with it don't work. For instance I can't get the 'tree' command to work?

by Forezt on Thu, 2004-02-12 20:38
How do I access my shared partition as a regular user (non-root)?

by zorba4 on Fri, 2004-02-13 15:12
@DivisionByZero,
Remember, this post is not for asking for help, just for commenting the article at the beginning of the post.
Simply read this article, it will answer most of your questions.
If not, here is how you could make the thing work :
Just type fdisk in order to try to guess how your partitions are named from a Linux point of view.
Then add the mount points in /etc/fstab with the correct syntax.

Here is my fstab, have a look :
/dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda2 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda3 /mnt/win_e vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0

/mnt/win_c is my Windows C: disk
/mnt/win_d is my Windows D: disk
/mnt/win_e is my Windows 200 E: disk.

this was created automatically before the partitions existed before I install Linux, but I was also successful (on another system) adding filesystems created after Linux installation.
Homp this helps.
@Forezt, with my umask=0 parameter I use these filesystems as normal user, not as root.

by ElectroLinux on Wed, 2004-03-03 03:03
Since I'm a newbie, the slightest wrong syntax for my version would be wrong. Luckily, i figured some of it out.

So here is what i did:
[root@electrolinux root]# fdisk /dev/hda

The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1216.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
(e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/hda: 10.0 GB, 10005037056 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1216 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 522 4192933+ b Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda2 523 535 104422+ 83 Linux

Command (m for help): n
Command action
e extended
p primary partition (1-4)
p
Partition number (1-4): 3
First cylinder (536-1216, default 536):
Using default value 536
Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (536-1216, default 1216):
Using default value 1216

Command (m for help): t
Partition number (1-4): 3
Hex code (type L to list codes): c
Changed system type of partition 3 to c (Win95 FAT32 (LBA))

Command (m for help): w
The partition table has been altered!

Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.

WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.
The kernel still uses the old table.
The new table will be used at the next reboot.

WARNING: If you have created or modified any DOS 6.x
partitions, please see the fdisk manual page for additional
information.
Syncing disks.
[root@electrolinux root]# mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/hda3
mkdosfs 2.8 (28 Feb 2001)
You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root
[root@electrolinux root]#

THEN: I edited my /etc/fstab

LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1
LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb3 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
/dev/hda3 /mnt/win vfat defaults,umask=000 0 0

THEN:
[root@electrolinux root]# mount /dev/hda3
mount: mount point /mnt/win does not exist

So here is my problem...it keeps saying it doesn't exist....what do I do?

TIA.

by zorba4 on Wed, 2004-03-03 11:45
Sorry, ElectroLunux, but this seems to be quite obvious.
Simply type mkdir /mnt/win
followed by mount /dev/hda3

by mdbarton on Wed, 2004-03-03 11:51
Are NTFS partitions still only accessable as read-only from Linux? The problem with Fat32 is there is a 32GB limit, so my 90GB data disk had to be partitioned into 3 for me to share between Windows and Linux.


  



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